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Inspired By The Ideas Of Werner Erhard

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Werner Erhard Quote Experience

Carmel By The Sea, California, USA

March 13, 2008



This essay, Werner Erhard Quote Experience, is the third in the trilogy The Werner Erhard Experience:
  1. Werner Erhard Video Experience
  2. Werner Erhard Photo Experience
  3. Werner Erhard Quote Experience
in that order.

I am indebted to John Denver and to Raul Julia and to Anthony Zerbe and to James Cromwell who inspired this conversation.



Werner Erhard speaks transformation like a possibility.

Don't collapse this distinction with a "how to". I'm not talking about him giving instructions  here, although in some situations there may be instructions. I'm asserting when Werner speaks, that's transformation.

I've assembled this catalog of Werner's quotes over the thirty some years I've known him. Of course, there's volumes  more I've not captured. But these ones got  me enough for me to want to write them down.

It's often been noted how futile it is to hunt butterflies. Once you've captured them, they've lost the very quality they had which made you want to own them in the first place: their freedom.

So it is with Werner's quotes. By writing them down I've taken them out of the domain of transformation ie out of the domain of the spoken word, out of the domain of speaking  and listening, and put them into a mere close approximation  to transformation ie into the domain of the written word, into the domain of writing  and reading. When I write them down they lose some of the very quality which made them noteworthy in the first place.

What I've written down is an accurate recreation of Werner's words. But it's only an approximation to his up close and personal, face to face  transformation he constitutes in them when he speaks them. My written word is not his spoken word. That is to say the written word is not the domain of transformation.

There's no significance to the order in which I've listed these quotes. This is simply the order in which they first appeared in these Conversations For Transformation.

They need no setup nor introduction. Transformation is each and every one of them. Each and every one of them is transformation. Also notice transformation is holographic. So any piece  of any of Werner's quotes is transformation too, all of it - all of it, that is, if you're a listening  for all of it.

All that said, here they are. This is Werner Erhard:
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LOVE IS GRANTING ANOTHER THE SPACE TO BE THE WAY THEY ARE AND THE WAY THEY AREN'T SO THEY CAN CHANGE IF THEY WANT TO AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO.
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THE TRUTH BELIEVED IS A LIE.
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WHEN YOU'RE UP TO YOUR ASS IN ALLIGATORS, IT'S HARD TO REMEMBER YOUR INITIAL OBJECTIVE WAS TO DRAIN THE SWAMP.
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IF YOU KEEP SAYING IT THE WAY IT REALLY IS, EVENTUALLY YOUR WORD IS LAW IN THE UNIVERSE.
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INTERESTING PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED.
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EXPERIENCE IS MERELY EVIDENCE I AM HERE.
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HAPPINESS IS A FUNCTION OF ACCEPTING WHAT IS.
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A TRANSFORMED INDIVIDUAL DEMANDS TRANSFORMED RELATIONSHIPS BECAUSE ONLY IN SUCH A CONTEXT CAN HE OR SHE NATURALLY EXPRESS A TRANSFORMED INDIVIDUALITY.
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WHAT I HAVE IS A PLACE TO STAND. NOT THE RIGHT PLACE, FOR I DO NOT PRETEND TO KNOW WHAT IS RIGHT EVEN FOR MYSELF, LET ALONE OTHERS, BUT A PLACE I AM WILLING TO TRY OUT TO SEE IF IT LEAVES ME AS A CLEARING WHERE THE TRUTH CAN MORE POWERFULLY GO TO WORK.
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WHAT WE ARE ENGAGED IN CREATING IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE TRANSFORMATION OF PEOPLES' LIVES AND OF LIFE ITSELF. THIS CONTEXT OF TRANSFORMATION IS A CONTEXT OF FREEDOM AND OPPORTUNITY, OF EMPOWERMENT AND HUMAN JOY, OF CONTRIBUTION AND OF PARTICIPATION. PARTICIPATION IN THIS TRANSFORMATION IS, FOR ME, THE FULLEST EXPRESSION OF BEING.
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RESPONSIBILITY BEGINS WITH THE WILLINGNESS TO BE CAUSE IN THE MATTER OF ONE'S LIFE. ULTIMATELY, IT IS A CONTEXT FROM WHICH ONE CHOOSES TO LIVE. RESPONSIBILITY IS NOT BURDEN, FAULT, PRAISE, BLAME, CREDIT, SHAME OR GUILT. IN RESPONSIBILITY, THERE IS NO EVALUATION OF GOOD OR BAD, RIGHT OR WRONG. THERE IS SIMPLY WHAT'S SO, AND YOUR STAND. BEING RESPONSIBLE STARTS WITH THE WILLINGNESS TO DEAL WITH A SITUATION FROM THE VIEW OF LIFE THAT YOU ARE THE GENERATOR OF WHAT YOU DO, WHAT YOU HAVE AND WHAT YOU ARE. THAT IS NOT THE TRUTH. IT IS A PLACE TO STAND. NO ONE CAN MAKE YOU RESPONSIBLE, NOR CAN YOU IMPOSE RESPONSIBILITY ON ANOTHER. IT IS A GRACE YOU GIVE YOURSELF - AN EMPOWERING CONTEXT THAT LEAVES YOU WITH A SAY IN THE MATTER OF LIFE.
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YOU AND I WANT OUR LIVES TO MATTER. WE WANT OUR LIVES TO MAKE A REAL DIFFERENCE, TO BE OF GENUINE CONSEQUENCE IN THE WORLD. WE KNOW THAT THERE IS NO SATISFACTION IN MERELY GOING THROUGH THE MOTIONS, EVEN IF THOSE MOTIONS MAKE US SUCCESSFUL, OR EVEN IF WE HAVE ARRANGED TO MAKE THOSE MOTIONS PLEASANT. WE WANT TO KNOW WE HAVE MADE SOME IMPACT ON THE WORLD. IN FACT, YOU AND I WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE. WE WANT TO MAKE THE WORLD WORK.
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ONE CREATES FROM NOTHING. IF YOU TRY TO CREATE FROM SOMETHING YOU'RE JUST CHANGING SOMETHING. SO IN ORDER TO CREATE SOMETHING YOU FIRST HAVE TO BE ABLE TO CREATE NOTHING. TO MAKE SURE A PERSON DOESN'T FIND OUT WHO HE IS, CONVINCE HIM THAT HE CAN'T REALLY MAKE ANYTHING DISAPPEAR. ALL THAT'S LEFT THEN IS TO RESIST, RESIST, SOLVE, FIX, HELP OR CHANGE THINGS. THAT'S TRYING TO MAKE SOMETHING OUT OF SOMETHING.
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THE WAY TO HANDLE A MONSTER IS TO GIVE IT LOTS OF SPACE.
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YOUR LIFE WORKS TO THE DEGREE YOU KEEP YOUR AGREEMENTS.
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THERE ISN'T ANYBODY WHO SHOWS UP WITH TENNIS SHOES AND A TENNIS RACQUET WHO CAN'T PLAY TENNIS AT THE LEVEL OF SELF EXPRESSION. THEY MAY NOT PLAY AT THE LEVEL OF CHAMPION BUT THERE ISN'T ANYBODY WHO CAN'T PLAY AT THE LEVEL OF SELF EXPRESSION.
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YOU CAN START OFF ANYWHERE YOU LIKE AS LONG AS WHERE YOU END UP IS LEAVING EVERYBODY WITH MORE POWER.
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YOUR LIFE AND MY LIFE HAVE TURNED OUT, AND ONCE YOU GET THAT, LIFE GOES ON FROM A POSITION OF HAVING TURNED OUT. THAT'S CALLED PLAYING THE GAME FROM WIN.
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HEROES ARE ORDINARY MEN AND WOMEN WHO DARE TO SEE AND MEET THE CALL OF A POSSIBILITY BIGGER THAN THEMSELVES. BREAKTHROUGHS ARE CREATED BY SUCH HEROES, BY MEN AND WOMEN WHO WILL STAND FOR THE RESULT WHILE IT IS ONLY A POSSIBILITY - PEOPLE WHO WILL ACT TO MAKE POSSIBILITY REAL.
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WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO GO TO FIND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE NEW ERA WHEN WHO YOU HAVE BEEN BEING IS INSUFFICIENT FOR YOUR LIFE?
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WHAT HAPPENED TO ME ON THE GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE WAS I REALIZED I KNEW NOTHING. EVERYTHING I THOUGHT I KNEW I ONLY KNEW "IN ORDER TO".
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BUILDING A STRATEGY TO AVOID THE ALMOST CERTAIN FUTURE BINDS YOU AS MUCH TO THE ALMOST CERTAIN FUTURE AS COMMITTING TO IT.
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I WANT YOU TO SHIFT YOUR PERSPECTIVE FROM LIVING YOUR LIFE TO BEING AN ACTOR PLAYING THE LEAD ROLE IN A PLAY CALLED YOUR LIFE.
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MY NOTION ABOUT SERVICE IS THAT SERVICE IS ACTUALLY THAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP IN WHICH YOU HAVE A COMMITMENT TO THE PERSON. NOW I DON'T MEAN TO THE PERSON'S BODY OR TO THE PERSON'S PERSONALITY OR TO THE PERSON'S STOMACH OR TO THE PERSON'S ALMOST ANYTHING. WHAT I MEAN IN FACT IS THAT FOR ME WHAT SERVICE IS ABOUT IS BEING COMMITTED TO THE OTHER BEING, TO THE OTHER PERSON SPIRITUALLY, TO WHO THE PERSON IS. NOW THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT TO THE DEGREE THAT YOU ARE IN FACT COMMITTED TO THE OTHER PERSON YOU ARE ONLY AS VALUABLE AS HOW YOU CAN DEAL WITH THE OTHER PERSON'S STUFF, THEIR EVIDENCE, THEIR MANIFESTATION, AND THAT'S WHAT SERVICE IS ALL ABOUT. SERVICE IS ABOUT KNOWING WHO THE OTHER PERSON IS, AND BEING ABLE TO TOLERATE GIVING SPACE TO THEIR GARBAGE. WHAT MOST PEOPLE DO IS TO GIVE SPACE TO PEOPLE'S QUALITY AND DEAL WITH THEIR GARBAGE. ACTUALLY, YOU SHOULD DO IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. DEAL WITH WHO THEY ARE AND GIVE SPACE TO THEIR GARBAGE. KEEP INTERACTING WITH THEM AS IF THEY WERE GOD. AND EVERY TIME YOU GET GARBAGE FROM THEM, GIVE SPACE TO THE GARBAGE AND GO BACK AND INTERACT WITH THEM AS IF THEY WERE GOD.
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PEOPLE PARTICIPATE IN THIS WORK BECAUSE OF THE VALUE THEY EXPERIENCE IN THEIR LIVES UNTIL THEIR LIVES OUTSIDE OF THEIR PARTICIPATION BECOMES MORE IMPORTANT TO THEM THAN FOCUSING ON GROWTH, OR THEIR LIVES BECOME SO DEMANDING THEY DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO PARTICIPATE. IT IS TOTALLY APPROPRIATE FOR PEOPLE TO STOP PARTICIPATING AT SOME POINT, AND FOCUS ON GETTING ON WITH THEIR LIVES AND INTERESTS. A NUMBER OF STUDIES ON GRADUATES DEMONSTRATE THE VALUE THEY RECEIVED KEEPS ON BEING OF VALUE IN THEIR LIVES EVEN AFTER THEY STOP PARTICIPATING, AND THAT THEY CONTINUE TO GROW ON THE FOUNDATION THAT THEY CREATED FOR THEMSELVES OUT OF THEIR PARTICIPATION.
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YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO LOOKING FOR LOVE WHEN IT IS WHERE YOU COME FROM.
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WE ALL HAVE RELATIONSHIPS, AND IF YOU CAN COMPLETE YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR PARENTS, YOU CAN HAVE INCREDIBLE RELATIONSHIPS, MAGICAL RELATIONSHIPS, MIRACULOUS RELATIONSHIPS.
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WHAT YOU RESIST PERSISTS.
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IN THIS CONVERSATION WE DISCOVER ANOTHER POSSIBILITY: LIVING IN A WAY, NOW, MOMENT TO MOMENT, THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE TO LIFE. WE DISCOVER THAT AS HUMAN BEINGS WE CAN LIVE IN A POSSIBILITY INSTEAD OF IN WHAT WE HAVE INHERITED, THAT INSTEAD OF JUST BEING A HUMAN BEING BECAUSE WE WERE BORN THAT WAY, WE CAN DECLARE THE POSSIBILITY OF BEING FOR HUMAN BEINGS. THIS IS THE WORK OF TRANSFORMATION: BRINGING FORTH A BREAKTHROUGH IN THE POSSIBILITY OF BEING HUMAN. WHAT WE CREATE TOGETHER IS A RELATIONSHIP IN WHICH OUR WORK CAN SHOW UP AS MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN PEOPLE'S LIVES. I WELCOME THE UNPRECEDENTED OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO WORK GLOBALLY ON THAT WHICH CONCERNS US ALL AS HUMAN BEINGS.
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DISTINCTIONS HAVE A SHORT HALF LIFE, AND NEED TO BE RECREATED FROM TIME TO TIME.
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MASTERY IS NOT ABOUT BEING IN AN AESTHETIC PLACE OF LOVE AND KINDNESS. THAT'S JUST THE BEGINNING OF MASTERY. MASTERY IS ABOUT HAVING THE WORLD SHOWING UP AS IT IS. AND 'I' IS JUST ANOTHER PIECE IN THE WORLD.
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IT'S MUCH EASIER TO RIDE THE HORSE IN THE DIRECTION HE'S GOING.
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THE ONE THING I'M CLEAR ABOUT IS EVERYONE IS CAPABLE OF BEING GREAT. NOT COMPARED TO SOMEONE ELSE. I MEAN GREAT FOR YOURSELF. I'M COMMITTED TO YOU REALIZING YOU'RE GREAT.
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WHO YOU MEAN WHEN YOU SAY "I" IS NOT YOU. IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT SHOWS UP FOR YOU.
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MASTERY IS WHEN WHAT'S THERE IS ALL THAT'S THERE.
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I IS NOT ME. IT'S SIMPLY SOMETHING THAT SHOWS UP FOR ME. BE OPEN TO THE POSSIBILITY OF BEING WITH THIS THING CALLED "I" SO YOU'RE MOVED TO TEARS BY IT. YOU CAN'T MASTER LIFE UNTIL YOU MASTER I.
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THE PATHWAY TO HAVING IS NOT WANTING. IF YOU WANT SOMETHING, YOU NEED TO HAVE A DIFFERENT RELATIONSHIP WITH IT OTHER THAN WANTING IT IN ORDER TO HAVE IT.
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HERE IS WHERE IT IS. NOW IS WHEN IT IS. YOU ARE WHAT IT IS. CELEBRATE!
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WHAT WE WANT TO GET TO IS TO HAVE THE AESTHETIC EXPERIENCE OF LOVE, KINDNESS, AND JOY BECOME ORDINARY.
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THE GATES TO THE TEMPLE OF TRUTH ARE GUARDED BY TWO DRAGONS: PARADOX AND CONFUSION.
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WHAT I MEAN BY 'PATTERNED BEHAVIOR' IS ONE'S HABITUAL WAY OF REPRESENTING ONESELF, OFTEN THOUGHT OF AS 'JUST THE WAY I AM'.
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Latest: WHILE NO ONE WANTS TO BE THE FIRST TO SAY IT, WHO EACH OF US IS AND THE FUNDAMENTAL CHOICES EACH OF US MAKES IN LIFE SEEM TO MATTER VERY LITTLE. EVEN ACTS OF GREAT COURAGE AND INTELLIGENCE, WHILE ADMIRABLE AND EVEN INSPIRING, EXIST IN SHARP CONTRAST TO THE APPARENT UNWORKABILITY OF THE WORLD AT LARGE. OUR GREATEST TECHNICAL ACHIEVEMENT, WALKING ON THE MOON, WHILE GALVANIZING THE WORLD FOR A MOMENT, DID NOT FUNDAMENTALLY ALTER PEOPLE'S EXPERIENCE OF THEIR ABILITY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THEIR LIVES AND IN THE WORLD. SOMETIME AROUND NOW - IT MAY HAVE HAPPENED FIVE YEARS AGO OR FIFTY YEARS AGO - BUT SOMETIME AROUND NOW, THE RULES FOR LIVING SUCCESSFULLY ON EARTH SHIFTED, AND AN OPPORTUNITY, UNSEEN BEFORE, BEGAN TO REVEAL ITSELF. THIS OPPORTUNITY IS A CONTEXT - A PARTICULAR SPACE OR PARADIGM, A WAY OF BEING - WHICH UNEXPECTEDLY CREATES THE POSSIBILITY FOR A PERSON'S LIFE TO TRULY MAKE A DIFFERENCE. IN THIS CONTEXT, THE WAY EACH OF US ANSWERS THE QUESTION 'WHAT IS MY LIFE REALLY GOING TO BE ABOUT?' CAN LITERALLY ALTER THE COURSE OF HUMANITY. THE POSSIBILITY TO CREATE THE CONTEXT IN WHICH PEOPLE'S LIVES REALLY MATTER IS UNDOUBTEDLY THE MOST PROFOUND OPPORTUNITY AVAILABLE TO ANYONE, EVER.
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Latest II: YOU AND I GO THROUGH LIFE, AND YOU'D BE SURPRISED HOW MUCH OF THE TIME IN LIFE THE QUESTION "HOW CAN I LIVE AND HAVE INTEGRITY AT THE SAME TIME?" IS PRESENT. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE WITH INTEGRITY. USUALLY THERE SEEMS TO BE A CONFLICT BETWEEN INTEGRITY AND LIVING. THE FACT IS YOU GIVE UP YOUR LIFE WHEN YOU COMPROMISE INTEGRITY.
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